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Showtec Phantom60 led BAR



12-03-2018, 06:06 PM #1
MarekSorath Offline Junior Member **
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Hello, is anybody here, who can help me with personalities?  I just bought this 12 lights ( Showtec Phantom60 led BAR ) and controller Showtec Creator 1024pro. But i can not find some webside with R20 library. I came from Avolites and hope, Creator ll be better, but I can not create in Showtec Perspnality Builder any correct personality for this fixture. Thank you for some help.

13-03-2018, 01:01 PM #2
Ron Offline Administrator *******
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Hi MarekSorath,
regarding your questions in above message, as the Phantom 60 LED Bar has some special channels you need to choose a atribute to be replaced on the Creator to setup the fixture propperly. if you can let me know what DMX mode you want to run these items, then we can try to help the best we can.

Feed your Chimp, Keep Calm or go Banana's!!

Best regards,  Ron

24-03-2018, 07:58 PM #3
MarekSorath Offline Junior Member **
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(13-03-2018, 01:01 PM)Ron Wrote:  Hi MarekSorath,
regarding your questions in above message, as the Phantom 60 LED Bar has some special channels you need to choose a atribute to be replaced on the Creator to setup the fixture propperly. if you can let me know what DMX mode you want to run these items, then we can try to help the best we can.

24-03-2018, 07:58 PM #4
MarekSorath Offline Junior Member **
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(24-03-2018, 07:58 PM)MarekSorath Wrote:  
(13-03-2018, 01:01 PM)Ron Wrote:  Hi MarekSorath,
regarding your questions in above message, as the Phantom 60 LED Bar has some special channels you need to choose a atribute to be replaced on the Creator to setup the fixture propperly. if you can let me know what DMX mode you want to run these items, then we can try to help the best we can.
I need 33channels mode. Thank you so much for help.

03-04-2018, 11:26 AM #5
Ron Offline Administrator *******
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when using the fixture in 33 channel mode, then there are 2 ways to patch it on the Creator.

first way is to create one fixture file of 33 channels with 6 times RGBW.
problem you are facing with this way is that the Creator Shape Generator cannot handle equal atributes within one fixture file. so for example only the first RGB will work in a rainbow shape.
but if this isn't a problem, then just open the Personality builder and replace the lables of the un-used atributes and change them to RED/GREEN/BLUE/WHITE for your 6 pixels and patch the corresponding channels.

second way:
if you want to use the Shape Generator, then you need a workaround to get it working propperly.
first you can create a fixture with the personaly builder which has the first 13 channels (movement+dimmer+first RGBW)
then create a fixture file which has only RGBW.
now patch the first fixture file (movement+dimmer+RGBW) and 5 times the RGBW. 
result is 6 fixtures to controll your Phantom 60 led BAR with the cool advantage that all your color shapes will work over all the pixels.

hope this info helps you create amazing shows.

Feed your Chimp, Keep Calm or go Banana's!!

Best regards,  Ron

03-04-2018, 07:33 PM #6
MarekSorath Offline Junior Member **
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(03-04-2018, 11:26 AM)Ron Wrote:  when using the fixture in 33 channel mode, then there are 2 ways to patch it on the Creator.

first way is to create one fixture file of 33 channels with 6 times RGBW.
problem you are facing with this way is that the Creator Shape Generator cannot handle equal atributes within one fixture file. so for example only the first RGB will work in a rainbow shape.
but if this isn't a problem, then just open the Personality builder and replace the lables of the un-used atributes and change them to RED/GREEN/BLUE/WHITE for your 6 pixels and patch the corresponding channels.

second way:
if you want to use the Shape Generator, then you need a workaround to get it working propperly.
first you can create a fixture with the personaly builder which has the first 13 channels (movement+dimmer+first RGBW)
then create a fixture file which has only RGBW.
now patch the first fixture file (movement+dimmer+RGBW) and 5 times the RGBW. 
result is 6 fixtures to controll your Phantom 60 led BAR with the cool advantage that all your color shapes will work over all the pixels.

hope this info helps you create amazing shows.






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